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I love McCain!! And this is why...

Postby Topic Of Gossip on Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:19 pm

I just thought McCain needed his own thread as there didn't seem to be much love or positivity out there for him.

I've heard a hell of lot of negativity about the other guy, but not really much about McCain himself.

Now come on people (Republicans especially)... let's spread the love. 8)
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Postby Lena on Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:05 pm

Many republicans don't like him , can't understand why since he's pro war in Iraq and part of the right wing-israel lobby posse that wants to get a war going with Iran.Also wants to end Social security which gives a safe retirement to seniors .  :?

But he is for campaign finance reform which annoys the rich ones since they won't be able to buy the  government they want ............


Although the Republicans claim to be pro-morality & family they look the other way about McCain's cheating history which the old boy is open about
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Postby GayandProud on Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:54 pm

I have one question. Does he like chips?
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Postby Fred75 on Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:21 pm

Lena wrote:Also wants to end Social security which gives a safe retirement to seniors .


Safe!!!!!

Where is ALL the money they put away for retirement????


Better yet.... you actually think theres going to be any money when WE retire?
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Postby ZiaAries on Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:30 pm

Fred75 wrote:
Lena wrote:Also wants to end Social security which gives a safe retirement to seniors .


Safe!!!!!

Where is ALL the money they put away for retirement????


As I've said several times before, I have never assumed that SS will provide for my retirement years. I don't consider that "retirement funds" by any stretch of the imagination.
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Postby Fred75 on Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:37 pm

Lena wrote:
Although the Republicans claim to be pro-morality & family they look the other way about McCain's cheating history which the old boy is open about


Can you back that up with a FEW legitimate news articles?
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Postby ZiaAries on Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:46 pm

Fred75 wrote:
Lena wrote:
Although the Republicans claim to be pro-morality & family they look the other way about McCain's cheating history which the old boy is open about


Can you back that up with a FEW legitimate news articles?


I'm curious why a Democrat would care. Not many seemed to be bothered when every child in America learned what a blow-job was by a sitting US President.... and while his wife, our "First Lady" was under the same roof of the White House when this took place.
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Postby Cambridge on Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:07 am

GayandProud wrote:I have one question. Does he like chips?


He likes martinis, chilled and served out of a thermos at ASU games. :D

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Postby Cambridge on Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:09 am

Fred75 wrote:
Lena wrote:Also wants to end Social security which gives a safe retirement to seniors .


Safe!!!!!

Where is ALL the money they put away for retirement????


Better yet.... you actually think theres going to be any money when WE retire?


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Postby Cambridge on Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:14 am

Fred75 wrote:
Lena wrote:
Although the Republicans claim to be pro-morality & family they look the other way about McCain's cheating history which the old boy is open about


Can you back that up with a FEW legitimate news articles?


News articles? You're joking, of course. But this points out a problem with conservatives. They are willing to accept secondary sources, gossip, whatever supports their malignant viewpoint.

I've always maintained that conservatives are two-dimensional idiots, incapable of abstract thinking. This proves it. They're too lazy to do the work that gets them to the source data. They just cherry-pick "news articles." Thanks for the confirmation, hairy-back. :clap:

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Postby Bushwalker on Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:45 am

ZiaAries wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
Lena wrote:Also wants to end Social security which gives a safe retirement to seniors .


Safe!!!!!

Where is ALL the money they put away for retirement????


As I've said several times before, I have never assumed that SS will provide for my retirement years. I don't consider that "retirement funds" by any stretch of the imagination.

8)

I don't plan on retiring - it has become an alien and unreachable concept to me.

I will just keep on going..

:)

Come what may...

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Postby Cambridge on Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:21 am

Bushwalker wrote:
ZiaAries wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
Lena wrote:Also wants to end Social security which gives a safe retirement to seniors .


Safe!!!!!

Where is ALL the money they put away for retirement????


As I've said several times before, I have never assumed that SS will provide for my retirement years. I don't consider that "retirement funds" by any stretch of the imagination.

8)

I don't plan on retiring - it has become an alien and unreachable concept to me.

I will just keep on going..

:)

Come what may...

:wiggly:


Congrats, Bush. But what will you do when the bigots like zia try to stop you from ccontinuing on? Life is an evolution, and people like her are the enemy.

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Postby ZiaAries on Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:41 am

Cambridge wrote:
Bushwalker wrote:
ZiaAries wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
Lena wrote:Also wants to end Social security which gives a safe retirement to seniors .


Safe!!!!!

Where is ALL the money they put away for retirement????


As I've said several times before, I have never assumed that SS will provide for my retirement years. I don't consider that "retirement funds" by any stretch of the imagination.

8)

I don't plan on retiring - it has become an alien and unreachable concept to me.

I will just keep on going..

:)

Come what may...

:wiggly:


Congrats, Bush. But what will you do when the bigots like zia try to stop you from ccontinuing on? Life is an evolution, and people like her are the enemy.


Bushwalker, Is this one of your friends? Well, is it?



Cambridge , Glad to see that you enjoy the use of bigot yet again and again. Let me check any other disgusting words that you fall prey to.


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Postby myron myron on Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:26 am

I don't "love" McCain. I don't even particularly like McCain. He is not sufficiently conservative for my tastes.

But McCain is a genuine war hero. And McCain has served as a U.S. Senator for more than 20 years and as a U.S. Congressman for four years before becoming a Senator. McCain has distinguished himself in the U.S. Senate. I believe McCain will try to do as President what he has said he will do during the campaign. I believe McCain is qualified to be President.

McCain's opponent, Barack Obama, has served half a term in the U.S. Senate, most of which has been spent campaigning for President. During his brief tenure in the U.S. Senate, Obama has not distinguished himself. I do not believe Obama will try to do as President what he has said he will do during the campaign. I believe Obama is a demagogue. I believe Obama is unqualified to be President in 2009, though he may become qualified in the future.

For these general reasons, I will hold my nose in November and vote for McCain.

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Postby ILWL on Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:02 am

Looking in from the outside, I would say that they are both excellent candidates but for different reasons.

McCain - as a War Hero (Though I don't know what he did?) would be good in that respect. However from the little I have seen of him, he actually comes across as a gentle and humble character. I cannot see him as a man who would rattle the sabre for the sake of doing so. This in itself would be quite an asset if there is an interest in building bridges.

Barack - Is certainly charismatic and will carry a lot of good will on the global stage - at least in the early stages. May mark an opportunity for the US to go on charm offensive.

I would expect that the Democrat is probably the best choice for the US Domestic scene - however on an international stage I actually feel that McCain would be the better of the two. Assuming McCain has the health to see out the term - I think whereas Barack will miss the boat, McCain will actually be an asset with greater room for political manoeuvre and may present an honest broker to the outside world.

Personally I think that Barack will have a lot to prove and may be effected by the historical precedent - This being both in terms of his colour and also with regards to the 'War on Terror'.

Whilst McCain may represent a cooling, I think that the above will eventually lead to a feeling of business as usual - unless Barack stamps his personality on things early on. Personally I think he will end up being dictated to by the right.

I am thinking in terms of the trends set during the 50 years of cold war - to borrow a mantra from Star Trek - only Nixon could go to China!

Of course it is up to the US people and I am an outsider to a large amount of the process.
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